https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yepr_P_TBDU [按「＃94」母親要求，抱歉這四段「繪。話」訪談，只供計劃研究之用，不作公開！ 但可瀏覽《如花。如水如母》網站，觀賞這母親的畫跡。不便之處，敬請原諒！]
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